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Two coverage additions to the attention_training benchmark configs.

1. cudnn_oss backend for kimi_k3 and deepseek_v4

  • kimi_k3 has the same attention geometry as dsv3 (head_dim_qk=192, head_dim_vo=128), whose config already benchmarks cudnn_oss; the backend was simply not included when kimi_k3 was added, so the dashboards show no OSS column for it.
  • deepseek_v4 (head_dim=512) is the model class the SM100 d512 forward flavor (python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/config_sm100.py) was built for, but without cudnn_oss in the config that kernel is never exercised by this benchmark.

2. flash_attention (FA2) backend on Ampere, all configs

FA4 backward asserts SM90+ (flash_attn/cute/interface.py, _flash_attn_bwd) while its forward supports SM80, so the Ampere dashboards had no flash-attention backward reference column at all. FA2 supports the SM80 backward and ships in the base container (2.7.4.post1 in the 26.07 image, verified on an A100), so a shared config_types.fa2_on_ampere() helper appends it to every config, only when the visible device is SM 8.x. SM90+ runs are unchanged: FA4 stays the sole flash-attention reference and no extra runtime is added.

On architectures or shapes a backend cannot serve (no matching OSS kernel; FA2 with mismatched Q/KV head dims or head_dim > 256), the unsupported (backend, pass) combos are recorded as failed rows in the CSV rather than hidden, per the existing convention in these configs.

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  • New Features
    • Added automatic FlashAttention-2 backend selection for supported Ampere GPUs.
    • Expanded backend coverage across attention-training benchmarks, including DeepSeek, Kimi, Llama, GPT, Qwen, Wan, and others.
    • Preserved existing cuDNN and FlashAttention-4 options while enabling compatible hardware to use the additional backend.
    • Standardized hardware-aware backend selection to improve benchmark compatibility across supported configurations.

kimi_k3 has the same attention geometry as dsv3 (head_dim_qk=192,
head_dim_vo=128), whose config already benchmarks cudnn_oss - the backend
was simply never added when kimi_k3 was introduced. deepseek_v4
(head_dim=512) is the model class the SM100 d512 forward flavor was built
for, but without cudnn_oss in its config that kernel is never exercised by
the benchmark. Architectures without a matching kernel record the
unsupported combos in the CSV per the existing convention.
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Attention training benchmark configurations now use the shared fa2_on_ampere() helper. The helper enables flash_attention on CUDA devices with compute capability 8. Ten benchmark configurations append the helper result to their existing backend lists.

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benchmark/attention_training/config_types.py
fa2_on_ampere() returns flash_attention for CUDA devices with major compute capability 8 and returns no additional backend otherwise.
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benchmark/attention_training/configs/*.py
Auto-regressive DiT, DeepSeek V4, DSV3, GPT OSS, Kimi K2.6, Kimi K3, LTX-2, Qwen 3.5, and Wan 2.2 append the helper result. Llama replaces its local Ampere detection with the shared helper while retaining its existing backends.

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@brandonfzhang brandonfzhang added this to the Frontend 1.29.0 milestone Sep 2, 2026
FA4 backward asserts SM90+ (its forward supports SM80), so the Ampere
dashboard has no flash-attention backward reference column. FA2 supports
the SM80 backward and ships in the base container, so include it as a
backend when the visible device is Ampere; on SM90+ FA4 remains the
reference and FA2 is not run.
@brandonfzhang brandonfzhang changed the title Enable cudnn_oss backend for kimi_k3 and deepseek_v4 training benchmarks Enable cudnn_oss for kimi_k3/deepseek_v4 and FA2 on Ampere for llama Sep 2, 2026
Moves the Ampere gate into a shared config_types.fa2_on_ampere() helper and
applies it uniformly: every training config benchmarks flash_attention when
the visible device is SM 8.x, giving the Ampere dashboards a flash-attention
backward reference wherever FA2 can serve the shape. Models whose head dims
FA2 cannot serve (mismatched Q/KV dims or head_dim > 256) record the
unsupported combos as failed rows per the existing convention. SM90+ runs
are unchanged.

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capability tuple and return true only for (8, 0), (8, 6), or (8, 7), excluding
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backends=["cudnn", "cudnn_oss", "flash_attention_4"],
backends=["cudnn", "cudnn_oss", "flash_attention_4"] + fa2_on_ampere(),

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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

Restrict FA2 selection to Ampere capabilities.

fa2_on_ampere() checks only the capability major value. This also matches Ada sm_89. Because this line appends the helper result, the Llama configuration enables flash_attention on Ada, outside the Ampere-only contract. Update the shared helper to whitelist the supported Ampere capability tuples.

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In `@benchmark/attention_training/configs/llama.py` at line 34, Update the shared
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the supported Ampere compute-capability tuples, rather than checking only the
major value. Ensure Ada capability sm_89 is excluded while valid Ampere
capabilities remain selected.

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