frost(sdpa): port the SM80 backward onto SdpaBwdDsl + TemplateParams with sym_int THD extents (issue #604) - #765
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Estimated code review effort: 5 (Critical) | ~90 minutes Merge Risk: 🟠 High · up to The SM80 THD backward path can use mismatched head dimensions for supported configurations, risking memory corruption or incorrect gradients. Merge should be blocked until the compiled dimensions are aligned with the selected flavor and the regression test validates gradients with genuinely different packed token totals. Sequence Diagram(s)sequenceDiagram
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Caller->>lower_dsl_bwd: request SM80 backward lowering
lower_dsl_bwd->>SdpaBwdDslSm80: construct adapter
SdpaBwdDslSm80->>bprop_f16_sm80: compile and execute kernels
bprop_f16_sm80-->>SdpaBwdDslSm80: gradient artifacts and results
SdpaBwdDslSm80-->>Caller: package dq, dk, dv and optional gradients
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SM80 now follows the SM120 backward lowering shape exactly (design doc S5 / F-3, the backward analogue of NVIDIA#682): one adapter class (SdpaBwdDslSm80 in api_dsl.py) implementing the SdpaBwdDsl contract, lowered through the shared lower_dsl_bwd; bwd/api.py is deleted. - SdpaBwdDslSm80: descriptor-level check_support (flavor pick, mask resolution, dense_flex + strided-stats acceptance), no-op compile (the kernels self-cache until the TemplateParams conversion), execute with the full issue NVIDIA#514 carving (pad/gather staging, strided-stats gather, kernel workspace tail) and the d64 fast-path routing. SM80-only operands (bias -> dBias, RoPE) are extra optional keywords, as the contract permits. - lower_dsl_bwd is parameterized by api_type (mirrors lower_dsl_prefill) and now drives both backward cells; SM80-only constructor facts and execute operands forward via signature introspection, so the SM120 adapter is untouched. lower_sm80_bwd (the plan-time APIBase half-way house) is gone. - sdpa_bwd_wrapper_sm80 keeps its public signature (dense via the adapter, packed THD via the kernel varlen path); SdpabwdSm80 is replaced by SdpaBwdDslSm80 (experimental API, exports/tests updated). - The SM80 suites declare their backward output strides explicitly: the shared lowering honors DECLARED port geometry (IR-inferred output strides are provisional row-major -- the layout invariant), where the old adapter leniently trusted caller tensor metadata. Verified on A100: SM80 suites all levels 118 passed; test_mhas_v2 fwd+bwd L0 = 421/0 at 100% FROST routing (fwd 623, bwd 176) through the ported path. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…ule (issue NVIDIA#604) The NVIDIA#689 analogue for the backward: bprop_f16_sm80 becomes a TemplateParams template (bwd/config_sm80 params + validator) loaded per-specialization via frost.template_loader, with one module-level compile(...) per shape returning the full kernel chain (do_dot / main / dQ cast / GQA reduces / dSink); the host backward() entry point is gone — launch marshaling lives in the adapter (SdpaBwdDslSm80.compile/execute) and the THD functional wrapper. THD packed token totals compile as cute.sym_int DYNAMICS (issue NVIDIA#604): one artifact per (params, n_seqs) re-binds any token totals — the static PARTIAL_Q/PARTIAL_KV gates fold False under THD_VARLEN (per-sequence bounds ride GATE_Q/GATE_KV), and THD+deterministic is now rejected in the validator (the dQ-relay semaphore has no plan-time size under a dynamic sq). Also: RoPE preconditions the old backward() asserted move to the adapter (rope_max_s coverage, tile alignment) and rope_max_s now reaches the plan (it's part of the compiled table's shape); the d64 fast path keeps its dedicated self-caching module (dense-only) and the d64-vs-generic test runs the generic side through the adapter with the gate forced off; a bwd twin of the THD compile-key regression test guards the plan-time-only key. Dead code deleted: the legacy per-piece _compile_* wrappers (except _compile_do_dot, which d64 imports) and the module dummy cache. Closes NVIDIA#604. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py`:
- Around line 1025-1033: Update bwd_params_for_flavor in
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py:1025-1033 to pass d_qk=fdqk and d_v=fdv so THD
kernels compile for the padded buffer dimensions. In
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/config_sm80.py:142-155, initialize base with d_qk=cfg.D_QK
and d_v=cfg.D_V before applying overrides, ensuring flavor-selected envelope
dimensions remain consistent.
In `@test/python/fe_api/sdpa/test_sdpa_bwd_sm80.py`:
- Around line 274-284: Update the THD compile-cache regression test around
sdpa_bwd_wrapper_sm80 and varlen to retain backward outputs for batches with
matching batch counts, then compare dq_tensor, dk_tensor, and dv_tensor against
the existing THD reference implementation using its established
dtype-appropriate tolerances.
- Line 301: Update the varlen input in the same-batch-count test call to retain
n_seqs=2 while changing its packed token total from 256, such as using [64,
256], so compile-key behavior is exercised with a different total.
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| params = bwd_params_for_flavor( | ||
| flavor, | ||
| io_bf16=(q.dtype == torch.bfloat16), | ||
| is_causal=bool(is_causal), | ||
| has_swa=has_swa, | ||
| causal_bottom_right=bool(causal_bottom_right) and (bool(is_causal) or has_swa), | ||
| thd_varlen=True, | ||
| sched_policy=_BWD_SCHED_NATURAL, # LPT+THD is a future tweak | ||
| ) |
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🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🔴 Critical | ⚡ Quick win
THD backward compiles the wrong head dims for every non-llama flavor. The flavor name selects both the host-side padding dims (_SM80_BWD_FLAVOR_DIMS) and the tile geometry, but the compiled kernel head dims come from TemplateParams.d_qk / d_v, which stay at the 128/128 defaults. bprop_f16_sm80.compile uses those defaults for the fake tensor extents and the device constexprs, so a d=64 THD call writes dQ/dK/dV out of bounds and a d=192/d=256 call returns wrong gradients.
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py#L1025-L1033: passd_qk=fdqk, d_v=fdvtobwd_params_for_flavorso the compiled kernel matches the padded buffers.python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/config_sm80.py#L142-L155: seedd_qk=cfg.D_QK, d_v=cfg.D_Vintobasebefore applyingoverrides, so a flavor name alone cannot yield mismatched envelope dims.
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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py` around lines 1025 - 1033, Update
bwd_params_for_flavor in python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py:1025-1033 to pass
d_qk=fdqk and d_v=fdv so THD kernels compile for the padded buffer dimensions.
In python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/config_sm80.py:142-155, initialize base with
d_qk=cfg.D_QK and d_v=cfg.D_V before applying overrides, ensuring
flavor-selected envelope dimensions remain consistent.
| return sdpa_bwd_wrapper_sm80( | ||
| q, | ||
| k, | ||
| v, | ||
| fwd["o_tensor"], | ||
| do, | ||
| fwd["lse_tensor"], | ||
| is_causal=True, | ||
| cum_seqlen_q_tensor=cu, | ||
| cum_seqlen_k_tensor=cu, | ||
| ) |
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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟠 Major | 🏗️ Heavy lift
Validate THD gradients in the compile-cache regression.
varlen returns the backward gradients, but the test discards every result. The test can pass when cache reuse is correct but the THD backward result is wrong.
Retain at least the same-batch-count outputs and compare dq_tensor, dk_tensor, and dv_tensor with the existing THD reference pattern and dtype-appropriate tolerances. As per coding guidelines, “Compare test results against a reference implementation using existing reference-module patterns and dtype-appropriate tolerances.”
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In `@test/python/fe_api/sdpa/test_sdpa_bwd_sm80.py` around lines 274 - 284, Update
the THD compile-cache regression test around sdpa_bwd_wrapper_sm80 and varlen to
retain backward outputs for batches with matching batch counts, then compare
dq_tensor, dk_tensor, and dv_tensor against the existing THD reference
implementation using its established dtype-appropriate tolerances.
Source: Coding guidelines
| # Different logical batch counts legitimately re-specialize (the cu fake | ||
| # length is plan-time); different TOKEN TOTALS at the same batch count | ||
| # must not. | ||
| varlen([64, 192]) # same n_seqs as call 1, different totals |
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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win
Use a different packed token total for the same-batch-count call.
The first call totals 256 tokens (96 + 160). This call also totals 256 tokens (64 + 192). A compile key that incorrectly includes the packed total will still cache-hit.
Keep n_seqs=2, but use a different total such as [64, 256].
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- varlen([64, 192]) # same n_seqs as call 1, different totals
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| varlen([64, 192]) # same n_seqs as call 1, different totals | |
| varlen([64, 256]) # same n_seqs as call 1, different totals |
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In `@test/python/fe_api/sdpa/test_sdpa_bwd_sm80.py` at line 301, Update the varlen
input in the same-batch-count test call to retain n_seqs=2 while changing its
packed token total from 256, such as using [64, 256], so compile-key behavior is
exercised with a different total.
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Rebased onto develop after #716 merged — now exactly the two commits described below.
Brings the SM80 backward onto the same FROST conventions as the forward (#682/#689), in two commits:
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[SDPA] Port the SM80 backward onto the SdpaBwdDsl adapter pathbwd/api.py(the pre-conventionSdpabwdSm80APIBase adapter) is deleted;SdpaBwdDslSm80inbwd/api_dsl.pyimplements the sharedSdpaBwdDslcontract (check_support → compile → execute), and one lowering function —lower_dsl_bwd, parameterized byapi_typeexactly like the forward'slower_dsl_prefill— now drives both backward cells.lower_dsl_bwdbias/dbias generalization for SM120; this PR adopts upstream's convention (unconditionalbias_tensor/dbias_tensorexecute args,sample_bias/sample_dbiasdescriptors) and keeps only the SM80-specific ctor extras, signature-filtered..contiguous()allocations in the oldbwd/api.py_stage(they die with the file): the replacement_stagegathers into carved workspace (issue Convert torch-native SM80 SDPA adapters to scratch workspace carving #514 machinery) — the immediate half of frost(sdpa): SM80 adapters still normalization-copy non-compact operands (_stage/_to_bshd.contiguous()) — should address declared strides natively #787 (the post-frost(sdpa): SM80 workspace carving + backward strided stats — no per-execute allocation on the engine paths (issue #514) #716_stage/contiguousfollow-up; the forward_to_bshdresidual and the native-strided-operand end state stay tracked there).2.
frost(sdpa): convert the SM80 backward kernel to a TemplateParams module (issue #604)bprop_f16_sm80becomes a TemplateParams template (bwd/config_sm80.pyparams + validator) loaded per-specialization viafrost.template_loader; one module-levelcompile(...)per shape returns the full kernel chain (do_dot / main / dQ cast / GQA reduces / dSink). The hostbackward()entry point is gone — launch marshaling lives in the adapter and the THD functional wrapper.cute.sym_intdynamics — one artifact per (params, n_seqs) re-binds any token totals; a compile-key regression test (twin of the forward's) proves two varlen calls with different totals share one artifact. THD+deterministic is rejected in the validator (the dQ-relay semaphore has no plan-time size under a dynamicsq).backward()asserted move to the adapter (table coverage, tile alignment), andrope_max_sis now part of the plan. The dedicated plain-dense d=64 fast path keeps its self-caching module (dense-only; frost(sdpa): SM80 _compile_cached keys the THD compile on the packed token totals (per-step recompile) #604 is THD-only); the d64-vs-generic test drives the generic side through the adapter with the gate forced off._compile_*wrappers (except_compile_do_dot, which d64 imports) and the module dummy cache.Verification (A100, dev backend 9.27)
fe_api/sdpa/test_sdpa_{fwd,bwd}_sm80.py,sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_sm80_{frontend_integration,stream_respect}.py).test_mhas.py -m L0: 3902 passed, 0 failed (pre-rebase equivalent head).test_mhas_v2.py -m L0FROST routing on this exact head (860895e56): 1241 passed, 0 failed; every backward graph routes to FROST —frost:sdpa_bwd_sm80: 192, zeronative:*bwd(up from 176 before the recent suite expansion). Forward:frost:sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm80: 689plus 1025native:fp16-fwdgraphs from the newly expanded v2 suite (test_mhas_v2: naturally produce deeply negative attention scores in every test #743 et al.) — this PR touches onlybwd/files, so the forward split is the develop baseline, not a change.🤖 Generated with Claude Code
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