Change RoPE computation to bf16 precision to match MCore's triton implementation - #723
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…logue The unfused path applies RoPE with Megatron's Triton rotary_fwd_q_kernel. Its element type is BF16 but its arithmetic is not: it widens to fp32, contracts one product into an fma, and rounds to BF16 only where a value is materialized. The epilogue now reproduces that form product for product, which is what makes the fused and unfused queries agree bit for bit over 5.0e7 elements. Two nearby alternatives were measured against the same reference and both diverge: all-fp32 with a single round at the store misses 3.6e6 of those elements, genuine all-BF16 multiplies and adds miss 3.8e6. NVTE_FUSED_Q_UPROJ_DEBUG=1 additionally writes the post-GEMM and post-RoPE tiles to GMEM so the chain can be bisected against the unfused one. It is const_expr-gated, so nothing is emitted when it is off. Signed-off-by: root <rghadia@nvidia.com>
The fp32 epilogue reproduces the shape of Megatron's Triton RoPE but not its precision. Reading the PTX that rotary_fwd_q_kernel compiles to shows no fp32 instruction at all: it is mul.bf16 plus fma.rn.bf16, so it rounds once. Doing the same work in fp32 and narrowing rounds twice, and when the fp32 result lands on a BF16 midpoint the second rounding breaks a tie the real number never had, leaving the kernel one ULP off the correctly rounded value. NVTE_FUSED_Q_UPROJ_ROPE_BF16_FMA=1 emits the same bf16 instructions via inline PTX, since cute.arch has no bf16 arithmetic wrappers. Default stays on the fp32 path until the accuracy win and the throughput cost are both measured. Signed-off-by: root <rghadia@nvidia.com>
A bf16 MLIR type on an inline-asm operand makes the NVVM backend fail to compile the kernel, and it reports nothing beyond "backend compilation failed". The registers are .b16 either way, so bitcasting to Int16 around the asm sidesteps it at no cost. Signed-off-by: root <rghadia@nvidia.com>
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Signed-off-by: Ravi Ghadia <rghadia@nvidia.com>
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📝 WalkthroughWalkthroughThe MXFP8 RoPE kernel adds an environment-controlled BF16 FMA implementation with packed inline PTX helpers. The existing FP32 path remains available. The API adds a local ChangesMXFP8 RoPE execution
Estimated code review effort: 3 (Moderate) | ~20 minutes Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to The PR changes RoPE computation to BF16, but the current implementation can prevent JAX-only users from importing the kernel when PyTorch is unavailable, and certain environment flag values can also break module import; formatting validation additionally fails. These are bounded but concrete merge-readiness issues that should be fixed or explicitly accepted before merge. Suggested reviewers: 🚥 Pre-merge checks | ✅ 4 | ❌ 1❌ Failed checks (1 warning)
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Signed-off-by: Ravi Ghadia <rghadia@nvidia.com>
This update introduces optimized inline PTX functions for native BF16 rope arithmetic, specifically _rope_lo_bf16 and _rope_hi_bf16, which improve performance by reducing instruction count and ensuring precision. The changes also involve passing operands as Int16 bit patterns to avoid NVVM compilation issues, aligning with previous adjustments for BF16 operations. Signed-off-by: Ravi Ghadia <rghadia@nvidia.com>
This update removes unnecessary bf16 conversions in the gemm_proj_rope_mxfp8 kernel. Signed-off-by: Ravi Ghadia <rghadia@nvidia.com>
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78-81: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | 💤 Low valueRemove the unused
_to_bf16_f32helper.The BF16 path now performs the round trip inside the inline PTX.
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In `@python/cudnn/gemm/cutedsl/dense/proj_rope_mxfp8/api.py`:
- Line 650: Remove the unused torch import from the MXFP8 branch in the affected
API flow so the JAX path does not require PyTorch; add a JAX-only test that
exercises this path in an environment without PyTorch.
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`@python/cudnn/gemm/cutedsl/dense/proj_rope_mxfp8/gemm_proj_rope_mxfp8_mxfp8in.py`:
- Line 492: Remove the whitespace-only blank lines near the affected code in the
Python module, including the locations around lines 492 and 579, so the file
passes Black formatting checks without changing executable content.
- Line 76: Update the ROPE_BF16_FMA environment-flag parsing to accept common
boolean values such as true, on, and yes without raising during module import,
while treating invalid or unset values as disabled so the FP32 path remains
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- Around line 78-81: Remove the unused _to_bf16_f32 helper, after confirming
there are no callers in the file or repository; leave the inline PTX BF16
round-trip implementation unchanged.
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Remove the unused PyTorch import from the MXFP8 branch.
torch is optional, but this import runs on the JAX MXFP8 path and can raise ModuleNotFoundError. Remove it and add a JAX-only test without PyTorch.
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In `@python/cudnn/gemm/cutedsl/dense/proj_rope_mxfp8/api.py` at line 650, Remove
the unused torch import from the MXFP8 branch in the affected API flow so the
JAX path does not require PyTorch; add a JAX-only test that exercises this path
in an environment without PyTorch.
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Parse the environment flag without raising on non-numeric values.
int() raises ValueError for common boolean spellings such as "true", "on", or "yes". The call runs at module import time, so an invalid value breaks the import of this kernel module instead of falling back to the FP32 path.
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-ROPE_BF16_FMA = int(os.environ.get("NVTE_FUSED_Q_UPROJ_ROPE_BF16_FMA", "0")) > 0
+ROPE_BF16_FMA = os.environ.get("NVTE_FUSED_Q_UPROJ_ROPE_BF16_FMA", "0").strip().lower() in ("1", "true", "yes", "on")📝 Committable suggestion
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| ROPE_BF16_FMA = int(os.environ.get("NVTE_FUSED_Q_UPROJ_ROPE_BF16_FMA", "0")) > 0 | |
| ROPE_BF16_FMA = os.environ.get("NVTE_FUSED_Q_UPROJ_ROPE_BF16_FMA", "0").strip().lower() in ("1", "true", "yes", "on") |
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In
`@python/cudnn/gemm/cutedsl/dense/proj_rope_mxfp8/gemm_proj_rope_mxfp8_mxfp8in.py`
at line 76, Update the ROPE_BF16_FMA environment-flag parsing to accept common
boolean values such as true, on, and yes without raising during module import,
while treating invalid or unset values as disabled so the FP32 path remains
available.
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📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win
Remove the trailing whitespace on these blank lines.
Line 492 and line 579 contain whitespace-only content. Black removes it, so black --check fails on this file.
As per coding guidelines: "Format Python code and notebooks with Black using a line length of 160."
Also applies to: 579-579
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In
`@python/cudnn/gemm/cutedsl/dense/proj_rope_mxfp8/gemm_proj_rope_mxfp8_mxfp8in.py`
at line 492, Remove the whitespace-only blank lines near the affected code in
the Python module, including the locations around lines 492 and 579, so the file
passes Black formatting checks without changing executable content.
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