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Summary

  • Add deterministic 2 kernel implementation - move dQ matmul to separate kernel (dQ_kernel) which is Q stationary. And 1.15x speed up on llama, wan22, ltx2 compared with cudnn.
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  • Add bias/dBias support

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API and compatibility impact

Testing

All bwd routes to frost!

graphs on FROST engines: 1476/2292 (64.4%) -- transition goal is all-FROST
  frost:sdpa_bwd_sm120: 192
  frost:sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm120: 923
  frost:sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm120_fp8: 361
  native:fp16-fwd: 791
  native:fp8-fwd: 25

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  • New Features

    • Added additive bias and optional bias-gradient (dBias) support for SM120 SDPA backward operations.
    • Added deterministic execution paths for eligible head dimensions, with automatic fallback when requirements are not met.
    • Expanded support for padded tensors, grouped-query attention, causal masking, and varied tensor shapes.
  • Bug Fixes

    • Improved validation for bias gradients and deterministic execution, including unsupported broadcast configurations.
  • Documentation

    • Documented supported configurations, deterministic behavior, workspace requirements, and bias handling.

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SM120 SDPA backward now supports additive bias and dBias. It adds deterministic two-kernel dQ execution for eligible shapes, retains relay fallback, moves shared kernels into common modules, and expands engine wiring, workspace handling, tests, and documentation.

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SM120 SDPA backward extensions

Layer / File(s) Summary
API validation and route wiring
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/config_sm120.py, python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py, python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/engines.py
Bias and dBias validation, tensor forwarding, workspace sizing, caching, and deterministic route selection were added.
Shared primitives and kernel chain
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/_common_sm120.py, python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_chain_f16_sm120.py
Shared SM120 MMA utilities and the deterministic dQ, conversion, reduction, and dSink kernels were added.
Main kernel bias and route execution
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_f16_sm120.py
The fused kernel now applies bias, accumulates dBias, writes dS for the two-kernel route, and uses relay processing for fallback cases.
Behavior coverage and documentation
test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_bwd_dsl_sm120.py, test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_graph_analyzer.py, docs/fe-oss-apis/attention/sdpa_bwd_sm120.md
Tests cover bias, dBias, deterministic routing, fallback behavior, masks, tails, grouped heads, and bitwise results. Documentation describes the API and kernel routes.

Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~60 minutes

Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to fa8d8

This change adds a deterministic two-kernel backward path, but the current version still has concrete edge-case risks: large workspaces may select a route that cannot allocate, small tiles may leave outputs unwritten, and some valid tile overrides may fail during compilation; additional dQ stride and broadcast dBias determinism concerns also require resolution. Merge should wait for fixes or explicit owner acceptance.

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sequenceDiagram
  participant Client
  participant SdpaBwdDsl
  participant SM120Engine
  participant MainBackward
  participant SM120DetDqGemmKernel
  Client->>SdpaBwdDsl: Execute with bias and optional dBias
  SdpaBwdDsl->>SM120Engine: Validate and resolve graph tensors
  SM120Engine->>MainBackward: Launch selected backward configuration
  MainBackward->>SM120DetDqGemmKernel: Run dS-workspace dQ route when eligible
  MainBackward-->>Client: Return dQ, dK, dV, dBias, and optional dSink
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python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_f16_sm120.py (1)

67-78: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚖️ Poor tradeoff

Move the shared tile and MMA helpers into their own module.

tile_ptr, pack_half2, load_a_frag, load_a_frag_transposed, mma_bstream, mma_abregs, and copy16_smem_to_gmem are generic SM120 tile helpers. They are not specific to the dQ GEMM. This import also reaches for the module-private names _COPY_ELEMS and _LOG2E across a module boundary, which inverts the dependency direction: the main backward kernel now depends on the dQ kernel module.

Extract the helpers into a shared module, for example python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/tile_ops_sm120.py, and let both kernel modules import from it.

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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_f16_sm120.py` around lines 67 - 78,
Extract the shared SM120 helpers tile_ptr, pack_half2, load_a_frag,
load_a_frag_transposed, mma_bstream, mma_abregs, and copy16_smem_to_gmem into a
dedicated tile_ops_sm120 module, moving any required shared constants such as
_COPY_ELEMS and _LOG2E with them. Update both bprop_f16_sm120 and
dq_gemm_f16_sm120 to import these helpers from the new module, leaving
SM120DetDqGemmKernel in the dQ-specific module.
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Inline comments:
In `@docs/fe-oss-apis/attention/sdpa_bwd_sm120.md`:
- Around line 79-88: Update the “Two-kernel split” description to specify that
the dS workspace has physical S_kv_r128 columns, and replace the claim of no
fp32 workspace with the narrower claim that the route removes the fp32 dq_accum
workspace while still allocating fp32 delta.

In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py`:
- Around line 366-368: Update the deterministic-route memory check in the
relevant availability method to budget the dS workspace against a conservative
fraction of device memory, using the new _SM120_DET_2K_WS_FRACTION constant.
Prefer currently free memory when available, and only select the deterministic
route when ws_bytes fits within that bounded budget; otherwise preserve fallback
to the relay route.

In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_f16_sm120.py`:
- Around line 1963-1965: Update _pick_det_2k to reject enveloped head
dimensions, allowing det_2kernel only when the selected padded dimensions equal
the caller’s original dimensions; otherwise route to relay. Keep the compile()
backstop, but make its d_qk validation compare the padded dimension used by dq2k
so both checks agree.
- Around line 2082-2084: Update the dq2k q_tile selection in the deterministic
backward configuration so it is never smaller than ws_q_tile (bwd.q_tile), while
preserving the existing d_qk-based sizing. Ensure the resulting q_tile remains
compatible with SM120DetDqGemmKernel.__init__ and relies on its existing
shared-memory validation for the d_qk=192, q_tile=128 case.

In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_bwd_dsl_sm120.py`:
- Around line 129-149: Update _expect_det_2k to reject non-compact K and dQ
layouts, mirror all eligibility checks in SdpaBwdDslSm120._pick_det_2k, and use
the active execution device rather than hard-coded device 0 for memory capacity.
Add a regression case covering deterministic gapped layouts.

---

Nitpick comments:
In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_f16_sm120.py`:
- Around line 67-78: Extract the shared SM120 helpers tile_ptr, pack_half2,
load_a_frag, load_a_frag_transposed, mma_bstream, mma_abregs, and
copy16_smem_to_gmem into a dedicated tile_ops_sm120 module, moving any required
shared constants such as _COPY_ELEMS and _LOG2E with them. Update both
bprop_f16_sm120 and dq_gemm_f16_sm120 to import these helpers from the new
module, leaving SM120DetDqGemmKernel in the dQ-specific module.
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test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_bwd_dsl_sm120.py (1)

409-413: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Add per-batch bias coverage.

_run_case always creates a (1, H_q, S_q, S_kv) bias tensor. Add a bias_batch parameter and run a case with bias_batch=batch. This validates the documented (B, H_q, S_q, S_kv) bias and dBias contract.

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In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_bwd_dsl_sm120.py` around lines 409 - 413,
Update _run_case to accept a bias_batch parameter and use it as the leading
dimension when creating bias_gpu and dbias_gpu. Add a test invocation with
bias_batch=batch to cover the documented per-batch (B, H_q, S_q, S_kv) bias and
dBias shapes while preserving the existing default behavior.
python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/dq_gemm_f16_sm120.py (1)

244-250: 🩺 Stability & Availability | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Include the mbarrier array in the smem budget.

smem_bytes counts only the K and dS stage buffers. The kernel also allocates tma_mbar with STAGES Int64 entries. A configuration that lands just under the cap passes this check and then fails at launch. Add the mbarrier bytes so the constructor reports the error.

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-        smem_bytes = self.stages * (self.k_tile_elems + self.ds_tile_elems) * in_dtype.bytes
+        smem_bytes = self.stages * (self.k_tile_elems + self.ds_tile_elems) * in_dtype.bytes + self.stages * 8
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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/dq_gemm_f16_sm120.py` around lines 244 - 250,
Update the shared-memory calculation in the constructor around self.stages and
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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/api_dsl.py`:
- Around line 326-356: Update check_support to reject deterministic plans when a
broadcast bias (bias_desc with batch dimension 1 while the Q batch size is
greater than 1) is paired with a requested dBias output. Preserve support for
non-broadcast bias and nondeterministic plans, and use the existing
validation/error mechanism.

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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/dq_gemm_f16_sm120.py`:
- Around line 244-250: Update the shared-memory calculation in the constructor
around self.stages and tma_mbar to include the mbarrier array allocation: add
self.stages Int64 entries to smem_bytes using the appropriate byte size, while
preserving the existing capacity check and error reporting.

In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_bwd_dsl_sm120.py`:
- Around line 409-413: Update _run_case to accept a bias_batch parameter and use
it as the leading dimension when creating bias_gpu and dbias_gpu. Add a test
invocation with bias_batch=batch to cover the documented per-batch (B, H_q, S_q,
S_kv) bias and dBias shapes while preserving the existing default behavior.
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python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_f16_sm120.py (10)

1609-1619: dq2k q_tile can still be smaller than ws_q_tile.

q_tile is fixed at 64 when d_qk > 128, and ws_q_tile follows bwd.q_tile, which a tile_m override controls. SM120DetDqGemmKernel.__init__ requires q_tile % ws_q_tile == 0 (Line 63 of bprop_chain_f16_sm120.py).

Trigger: deterministic=True, d_qk=192, d_v=128, tile_m=128. bwd.q_tile becomes 128, the dq2k q_tile stays 64, and compile() raises ValueError after route selection already succeeded.

Derive the dQ q_tile so it is never below ws_q_tile.

🐛 Proposed fix
+        # q_tile must stay a multiple of ws_q_tile (the main kernel's tile).
+        dq2k_q_tile = max(128 if d_qk <= 128 else 64, bwd.q_tile)
         dq_gemm = SM120DetDqGemmKernel(
             in_dtype=STORAGE_DTYPE,
             is_causal=PARAMS.is_causal,
             causal_top_left=PARAMS.causal_top_left,
             right_slack=bwd.right_slack,
             head_dim=d_qk,
-            q_tile=128 if d_qk <= 128 else 64,
+            q_tile=dq2k_q_tile,
             kv_tile=min(64, bwd.kv_tile),
             ws_q_tile=bwd.q_tile,
             use_pdl=PARAMS.use_pdl,
         )

SM120DetDqGemmKernel.__init__ already raises if the resulting smem exceeds the SM120 cap.


348-367: LGTM!


433-446: LGTM!


605-624: LGTM!


665-723: LGTM!


834-848: LGTM!


942-981: LGTM!


1030-1054: 🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟠 Major | ⚡ Quick win

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Broadcast dBias breaks the deterministic guarantee.

_red_add_f32 performs an unordered red.global.add.f32. For per-batch bias, each (batch, head, q, kv) element receives exactly one reduction, so the order does not matter.

For broadcast bias, bias.shape[0] == 1, bias_hq_base omits batch (Line 560). Every batch's CTA then reduces into the same dbias_accum element. The summation order over B is not fixed, so dBias is not bitwise reproducible, including when deterministic=True.

Either document that dBias is exempt from the deterministic contract, or reject deterministic and dbias_present and bias_batch == 1 in the route selection.

Run the following script to check the current gating and the documented contract:


1057-1068: LGTM!

Also applies to: 1293-1298


470-494: LGTM!

Also applies to: 551-564, 1117-1160, 1396-1450, 1544-1569, 1687-1695

python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/_common_sm120.py (1)

16-59: LGTM!

Also applies to: 62-153, 156-197

python/cudnn/sdpa/bwd/kernels/bprop_chain_f16_sm120.py (5)

250-267: 🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟠 Major | 🏗️ Heavy lift

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dq2k ignores dq.stride and assumes a compact BSHD layout.

The store computes ((batch * SQ + r) * HQ + q_head) * d + col from shapes only. The relay conversion kernel convert_dq_kernel reads dq.stride at Line 507 and addresses rows with dq_seq_stride. The two paths disagree.

compile() passes fake_dq, which _fake(..., dq_strides) can build with declared non-compact (batch, seq, head) strides. If a caller declares non-compact dq_strides and the adapter selects the deterministic two-kernel route, dq2k writes outside the intended elements.

Either read dq.stride here, as convert_dq_kernel does, or reject non-compact dq_strides when selecting the two-kernel route.

Run the following script to check whether the adapter already excludes non-compact dq from the deterministic two-kernel route:


269-289: LGTM!


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@Adnios Adnios changed the title add det 2k add det 2k and dbias support Aug 24, 2026
@Adnios Adnios changed the title add det 2k and dbias support add det 2k and dbias support for sm120 sdpa bwd Aug 24, 2026
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