sdpa fp8: light up the softmax_precision knob axis — f16x2 exponent on the d128 SM107 sibling - #651
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📝 WalkthroughWalkthroughThe change adds optional FP16 softmax precision for per-tensor FP8 SDPA on SM107. It adds packed FP16 exponentiation and FP8 conversion helpers, validates architecture and input constraints, updates kernel dispatch, and adds derivation, gating, heuristic, and accuracy tests. ChangesFP8 softmax precision
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1754-1754: 🚀 Performance & Scalability | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winCanonicalize the default precision in the cache key.
__init__normalizes"fp32"toNone, but this key stores the raw value. Calls that differ only bysoftmax_precision=Noneversus"fp32"create separate API objects and duplicate cache entries for the same FP32 specialization.Suggested change
- softmax_precision=softmax_precision, + softmax_precision=None if softmax_precision in (None, "fp32") else softmax_precision,🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fp8_sm107.py`:
- Around line 146-161: Rename the ambiguous O variable to output throughout the
test, including its allocation, API sample and execution references, loop
binding, and subsequent comparisons, while preserving the existing behavior.
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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/api_dsl.py`:
- Line 1754: Update the cache-key construction in __init__ to use the normalized
softmax_precision value, so None and "fp32" produce the same key and reuse the
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In `@python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/heuristics.py`:
- Around line 320-321: Update the softmax precision proposal logic around
caps.softmax_precisions so a capability set containing only cudnn.data_type.HALF
returns None instead of automatically proposing HALF; preserve existing
proposals for FLOAT and other supported combinations, and add a test covering
the HALF-only capability case.
In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fp8_sm107.py`:
- Line 117: Reformat the Capabilities construction assigned to lit using Black
with the repository’s configured line length, preserving all existing arguments
and values.
- Line 74: Update test_fp8_softmax_f16_e2e to add a per-test L1 pytest marker,
overriding the module-level L0 classification while preserving the existing
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…n the d128 SM107 sibling NVIDIA#692 pre-carved the softmax_precision knob axis (vocabulary field, Capabilities domain, mismatch line, adapter pass-through, and 'no arm yet' declines). This lights it up for d128 per-tensor FP8 on cc10.7: - Values are cudnn.data_type.FLOAT (the universal default pipeline) and HALF (MUFU EX2.F16x2 pairs + direct f16x2->fp8 satfinite pack, no f32 round-trip). Numerics-changing, so honored exactly or declined — and NEVER auto-proposed: _softmax_points() fills the axis with FLOAT where a row serves it (flipping the Rubin-FP8 default to HALF is a separate, evidence-carrying change). - Capabilities: the d128 fp8 row declares softmax_precisions={FLOAT, HALF} plus the new softmax_half_sms={107} notch (knob x arch: the matcher encodes the shape once, each row supplies the SM set; the d192x128 fp8 row and every other row keep the empty default and decline). - Adapter: the placeholder decline becomes the real gate (d128 per-tensor FP8 only; HALF additionally cc10.7 only), TemplateParams.softmax_f16 keys the module cache, make_cfg_d128 rejects the flag on half inputs. - Kernel (SM107 sibling only): the exponent runs as MUFU EX2.F16x2 pairs and P casts straight from f16x2 to the FP8 pair format behind a trace-time const fold. Exp args are bounded by RESCALE_THRESHOLD + P_CAST_LOG2_SCALE = 8, so f16 range is exact where it matters and satfinite never clips (2^8 < 448); Sigma still rides the ones-MMA over the packed P. MUFU f16 max rel error 2^-9.9 (PTX ISA 9.7.4.10) sits an order below the e4m3 cast noise. SM100/MXFP8 files gain trace-time backstop raises. - New tile_dsl prims: ex2_f16x2 and f16x2x2_to_fp8_word, dtype-true (Float16 | BFloat16) with pedantic PTX ISA contracts; the bf16 forms (ex2.approx.ftz.bf16x2 PTX 7.8/sm_90+; e4m3x2.bf16x2 PTX 9.1/sm_100f+) are documented for the bf16-IO kernels' future use. Motivation: the f16x2 chain halves the MUFU work per softmax tile on the Rubin FP8 pipeline (-13.9% at d128/S=65k in staging; flips the Qwen3-VL ViT workload comparison against the reference kernel from -9.7% to +4.5% weighted). SM100 box: knob file + heuristics 16 passed / 1 skipped (the one failure, test_split_kv_plan_pinned_by_name, reproduces identically on pristine develop in this environment — pre-existing); fp8 e2e 45 passed with the same 9 pre-existing develop failures, zero regressions. Rubin e2e to follow on the PR. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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188-206: 🎯 Functional Correctness | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winValidate
lsefor both precision modes.The test enables the LSE output but never reads it. Compare each mode with
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The generic knob-domain decline formatted sorted(domain); populating softmax_precisions with cudnn.data_type members (a pybind enum with no ordering) made every frost:sdpa CI lane fail on test_knob_request_outside_domain_rejects_engine. key=int handles both the plain-int domains and the enum one. Also: black 26.3.1 (CI's version) drops a stray blank line in the sm107 kernel, and 'env-knob' is reworded — the guardwords nv- prefix rule matches inside it. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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… arch notches
The shared sm100-119 fp8 row could only describe the two lowerings'
union with notches; each Rubin difference became another conditional
dimension. One row per arch line makes every difference plain row data:
- sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm100_d128_fp8 (100-106): FLOAT softmax,
split_kvs {1,2,4}, all three sched policies.
- sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm107_d128_fp8 (107-119): FLOAT+HALF softmax (the
f16x2 exponent arm lives in that sibling kernel), split_kvs {1} (no
split path wired), sched {NATURAL} until the LPT port lands (issue
NVIDIA#653) — place() now hands the adapter an explicit NATURAL from this
domain, routing the graph path around the un-ported derivation.
- The d192/d128 row shrinks to 100-106: a Rubin d192 graph is now
ineligible at probe time instead of a late build error.
The softmax_half_sms notch (Capabilities field + mismatch rule) is
deleted; HALF on non-Rubin declines through the generic knob-domain
gate. The e2e suite pins the row serving the device under test, and
the d192 tests skip on Rubin explicitly.
Also reformats test_sdpa_stats_fp32_required.py with black 26.3.1 (the
CI formatter version) — the one remaining repo-wide dirty file keeping
analysis:clang-format red for every pipeline.
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The 12-row table (per-head-dim cells) becomes 7 family rows:
sdpa_fwd_prefill_{sm100, sm100_mxfp8, sm100_fp8, sm107_fp8, sm120,
sm120_fp8, sm80}. Kernel-flavor choice (which head-dim tile) happens
inside the lowering (api_dsl._pick_flavor, smallest covering flavor),
not in the ranked list.
Capabilities head-dim vocabulary shrinks to two fields: d_shapes (the
native flavor shapes) and d_pad_multiple (envelope alignment; 0 = exact
native shapes only — MXFP8, whose SF plumbing is not audited for
zero-padding). d_envelope and the thd_d_envelope notch are deleted;
thd_d_shapes / split_d_shapes express the flavors that carry the THD
leg / SplitHelpers (the quantized families wire both in d128 only).
The d192x128 fp8 kernel gains the same d_qk/d_v envelope params as the
d128 siblings, so the per-tensor family is uniformly enveloped
((160, 96) e2e rides the d192 flavor).
Honesty fixes that fall out as row data:
- f16 and MXFP8 rows shrink to SM 100-106 (no Rubin lowering): Rubin
graphs are ineligible at probe time instead of erroring at build, and
the f16/MXFP8/stream/async/split suites gain a
requires_pre_rubin_blackwell gate so the Rubin CI lane can widen its
FROST_TEST_PATHS to the whole frost directory (the lane's config note
asks exactly for this).
- Fixes test_dispatch.py::test_every_engine_spec_has_a_manifest_slot,
red on develop since NVIDIA#651: the sm107 row had no manifest slot, so
FrostSdpaFwdEngines silently never built it — Rubin per-tensor FP8
was unreachable on the graph route. The family rows get fresh
append-only slots (11-14); the per-head-dim slots are retired.
- The adapter honors an explicit softmax_precision=FLOAT on every
per-tensor flavor (the pipeline each already runs; place() hands it
out from the row domain). HALF stays d128 + cc10.7.
Cross-flavor plan ranking (running a small-d graph on a larger flavor
via select_plan) is retired with the per-d rows; if flavor A/B testing
is wanted it should return as a knob, not as engine identity.
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#587) * sdpa fp8: serve the dense d<=128 envelope for per-tensor FP8 Per-tensor FP8 now runs head dims below the d128 tile through the same zero-padding ENVELOPE the f16/bf16 flavors use, rebuilt on the merged knob/capability framework (#692) and the d192-era native-shapes gate: - engines: the d128/d128 fp8 row declares d_envelope with d_pad_multiple=16 (TMA 16-byte global-stride rule at 1 byte/elem). New notch Capabilities.thd_d_envelope (default True); the fp8 row sets False — its packed THD compile key carries no head-dim entries, so the envelope is dense-only there and mismatch() says so at probe time. - adapter: check_support admits dense per-tensor D_QK/D_V <= 128, multiples of 16, alongside the native shapes; compile hands the kernel the ACTUAL head dims on the per-tensor d128 flavor. - kernels (both d128 fp8 siblings, SM100/SM107, in lockstep): compile() grows d_qk/d_v. TMA descriptors carry the real extents while the tile box stays the compile-time D: OOB loads zero-fill (exact in FP8) and O stores clip at d_v. The stride guard checks d_v against the fp8 input BPE (which subsumes the O side at BPE_O in {1, 2}). d192/d128 and MXFP8 stay exact-native (SF plumbing not audited for zero-padding). This is the landing zone for the ViT d=72-in-80 contract (e.g. Qwen3-VL vision encoders) without caller-side re-padding to 128; the descales are scalars, so the envelope is arch-independent. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> * sdpa engines: one row per arch x dtype family — head dim is a lowering concern The 12-row table (per-head-dim cells) becomes 7 family rows: sdpa_fwd_prefill_{sm100, sm100_mxfp8, sm100_fp8, sm107_fp8, sm120, sm120_fp8, sm80}. Kernel-flavor choice (which head-dim tile) happens inside the lowering (api_dsl._pick_flavor, smallest covering flavor), not in the ranked list. Capabilities head-dim vocabulary shrinks to two fields: d_shapes (the native flavor shapes) and d_pad_multiple (envelope alignment; 0 = exact native shapes only — MXFP8, whose SF plumbing is not audited for zero-padding). d_envelope and the thd_d_envelope notch are deleted; thd_d_shapes / split_d_shapes express the flavors that carry the THD leg / SplitHelpers (the quantized families wire both in d128 only). The d192x128 fp8 kernel gains the same d_qk/d_v envelope params as the d128 siblings, so the per-tensor family is uniformly enveloped ((160, 96) e2e rides the d192 flavor). Honesty fixes that fall out as row data: - f16 and MXFP8 rows shrink to SM 100-106 (no Rubin lowering): Rubin graphs are ineligible at probe time instead of erroring at build, and the f16/MXFP8/stream/async/split suites gain a requires_pre_rubin_blackwell gate so the Rubin CI lane can widen its FROST_TEST_PATHS to the whole frost directory (the lane's config note asks exactly for this). - Fixes test_dispatch.py::test_every_engine_spec_has_a_manifest_slot, red on develop since #651: the sm107 row had no manifest slot, so FrostSdpaFwdEngines silently never built it — Rubin per-tensor FP8 was unreachable on the graph route. The family rows get fresh append-only slots (11-14); the per-head-dim slots are retired. - The adapter honors an explicit softmax_precision=FLOAT on every per-tensor flavor (the pipeline each already runs; place() hands it out from the row domain). HALF stays d128 + cc10.7. Cross-flavor plan ranking (running a small-d graph on a larger flavor via select_plan) is retired with the per-d rows; if flavor A/B testing is wanted it should return as a knob, not as engine identity. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> * test: exercise the d192-flavor fp8 envelope through the direct adapter API The pygraph sdpa_fp8 node validator (C++ frontend) still bounds the graph route at d_qk <= 128 (%16) / exact (192, 128) — a pre-FE-OSS shape whitelist — so the (160, 96) region of the d192xd128 flavor's envelope is reachable through the standalone API only. Relaxing that validation to describe-not-judge is a separate C++ question for the maintainers; the kernel capability and the engine row are validated here regardless. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> --------- Co-authored-by: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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#692 pre-carved the
softmax_precisionknob axis (vocabulary field,Capabilities.softmax_precisionsdomain, mismatch line, adapter pass-through, and "no arm yet" declines). This PR lights it up for d128 per-tensor FP8 on cc10.7:cudnn.data_type.FLOAT(the universal default pipeline) |HALF(MUFUEX2.F16x2pairs + directcvt.rn.satfinite.*x2.f16x2pack — no f32 round-trip). Numerics-changing, so honored exactly or declined, and never auto-proposed:_softmax_points()fills the axis with FLOAT wherever a row serves it; flipping the Rubin-FP8 default to HALF is a separate, evidence-carrying change.softmax_half_smsnotch): the per-tensor FP8 d128 cell is now two rows, each declaring exactly what its own lowering carries, with no knob × arch notches:sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm100_d128_fp8(SM 100–106):softmax_precisions={FLOAT},split_kvs={1,2,4}, all three sched policies.sdpa_fwd_prefill_sm107_d128_fp8(SM 107–119):softmax_precisions={FLOAT, HALF}(the f16x2 arm lives in that sibling kernel),split_kvs={1}(the sibling wires no split path — previously a silent shared-row lie),sched_policies={NATURAL}until the LPT port lands (frost(sdpa): SM107 fp8 sibling missing the #585 LPT_L2 scheduler port — all causal fp8 declines on Rubin #653) — and sinceplace()hands the adapter an explicit policy from the row domain, the graph path now routes around the un-ported LPT derivation instead of crashing into it.TemplateParams.softmax_f16keys the module cache;make_cfg_d128rejects the flag on half inputs. Composes with the d≤128 envelope (d80 maps to the (128,128) flavor).RESCALE_THRESHOLD + P_CAST_LOG2_SCALE = 8, so f16 range is exact where it matters and satfinite never clips (2⁸ < 448); Σ still rides the ones-MMA over the packed P. MUFU f16 max rel error is 2⁻⁹·⁹ (PTX ISA 9.7.4.10) — an order below the e4m3 cast noise. SM100/MXFP8 files gain trace-time backstop raises.tile_dslprims:ex2_f16x2,f16x2x2_to_fp8_word— dtype-true (Float16 | BFloat16) with pedantic PTX ISA contracts; the bf16 forms (ex2.approx.ftz.bf16x2PTX 7.8/sm_90+;e4m3x2.bf16x2PTX 9.1/sm_100f+) documented for the bf16-IO kernels' future use.Why
The f16x2 chain halves the MUFU work per softmax tile on the Rubin FP8 pipeline: −13.9% at d128/S=65k in the staging branch, and it flips the MLPerf Qwen3-VL ViT workload comparison against the reference kernel from −9.7% to +4.5% workload-weighted.
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sorted(domain, key=int)in the generic knob-domain decline — populating a domain withcudnn.data_typemembers (no enum ordering) had failed every frost:sdpa CI lane on one pure test.test_sdpa_stats_fp32_required.pyreformatted with black 26.3.1 (the CI formatter) — the one remaining repo-wide dirty file keepinganalysis:clang-formatred for every pipeline.env-knob→environment-knob(the guardwordsnv-prefix rule matches inside the former).Testing
test_sdpa_fp8_sm107.py, includingtest_fp8_softmax_f16_e2e(HALF vs FLOAT vs fp32 reference; cross-divergence bounded at half the reference tolerance).test_split_kv_plan_pinned_by_name, fp8-THD cases) reproduce identically on pristine develop in this environment — pre-existing, zero regressions from this diff.SOFTMAX_F16=1, SM100/MXFP8 raise), config validator, knob vocabulary gate, and the never-propose-HALF policy pinned as a pure-function test.🤖 Generated with Claude Code