fix: reject non-BHSD softmax-stats strides on cuDNN < 9.26; randomize in tests (NVBug 6057616) - #304
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📝 WalkthroughWalkthroughSDPA validation now checks non-ragged Stats layouts against cuDNN version requirements and rejects unsupported ragged backward configurations. Test generation now randomizes non-ragged Stats strides and gaps. ChangesSDPA Stats Validation
Estimated code review effort: 3 (Moderate) | ~20 minutes Mergeability Score: 🟡 Moderate · up to The tests now generate randomized softmax-stat layouts that older supported cuDNN versions cannot accept, which can cause configurations to fail or be skipped and undermines the stated 9.25 compatibility. Merge should wait for the version-gated stride handling; the remaining formatting follow-up is minor. Possibly related PRs
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These tests fail with the given changes, so apparently the underlying bug still hasn't been fully fixed: Marking this as draft again. |
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Rebased onto latest Pipeline 62010695 triage: the CI image runs cuDNN 9.25, so the Verified locally against a cuDNN dev build (backend 92700) where the randomization IS active: |
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Reworked the version gate in Verified: a 300-seed cross-version check (backend mocked 92500 vs 92700) shows identical shapes and Q/K/V/O strides with the stats stride diverging only where the gate applies; on A100 with a dev backend (92700), |
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… 9.26+) The stats (LSE) tensor stride was previously pinned to BHSD in the random test generator with a TODO comment, because the SM80 flash-bprop codegen used packed seq-stride addressing in the stats loads and silently produced wrong results for any other layout (NVBug 6057616). The backend fix landed in cuDNN dev as MR !4147 and will ship in 9.26. The stats layout is DRAWN unconditionally — so one seed derives identical shapes and Q/K/V/O strides on every backend version, preserving the layouts-are-a-function-of-the-seed-alone property NVIDIA#516 established — and APPLIED only when backend_version() >= 92600; older backends fall back to the packed BHSD default (old behavior), and full layout coverage engages automatically once CI deploys 9.26. Also wires the --implementation CLI option through the random fwd/bwd/bias L0 tests. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Rebased onto post-merge Pipeline 62374306 triage (previous head Re-verified on A100 against a dev backend (92700, randomization active): |
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…57616) The SM80 (and SM100 dBias) backward kernels in cuDNN < 9.26 ignore the declared strides of the Stats tensor and address it as packed BHSD, silently producing wrong gradients for any other layout. Guard both the forward and backward paths in the C++ cuDNN backend: - sdpa_support_surface.h: reject a non-ragged Stats *output* with non-BHSD strides when building a forward graph on cuDNN < 9.26, so the error surfaces at graph construction time rather than at bprop. - CompositeSDPABackwardNode::pre_validate_node(): reject a non-ragged Stats *input* with non-BHSD strides on cuDNN < 9.26 (the authoritative check; the forward check above is early-warning only). Also fixes a pre-existing formatting issue in the same region of scaled_dot_product_flash_attention.h: missing space in if(, mismatched continuation indent, and a tab in the closing brace. test: randomize softmax-stats strides unconditionally in random_config.py (the FE now rejects the broken configs on < 9.26 rather than silently corrupting; tests skip via GRAPH_NOT_SUPPORTED instead of producing wrong gradients). Verified 378/378 bwd L0 pass on cuDNN 9.26 (H100).
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In `@test/python/sdpa/random_config.py`:
- Around line 416-418: Update the Stats stride assignment in the configuration
builder to retain generating gaps_stats and the randomized stride, but use
packed BHSD strides for randoms_.stride_stats when cudnn.backend_version() is
below 92600; preserve the randomized stride for newer versions.
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The CodeRabbit mergeability concern ("The tests now generate randomized softmax-stat layouts that older supported cuDNN versions cannot accept … Merge should wait for the version-gated stride handling") does not apply here. The version gating is not in
On cuDNN 9.25, tests that draw a non-BHSD stats stride receive There is no 9.25 compatibility regression. Configurations that previously passed on 9.25 (BHSD stats) still pass; configurations that previously produced wrong results on 9.25 now correctly report |
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…_node (#642) The check added in 173c431 (#304) ran in validate_sdpa_support_surface(), which is called from pre_validate_node() — before shape inference. Samples and users that leave the Stats output dim/stride unset (to be inferred) were rejected with GRAPH_NOT_SUPPORTED on every cuDNN < 9.26, breaking the cpp_samples 9.19 CI jobs on develop since 2026-08-15. Move the check to post_validate_node(), which runs after infer_properties_node() has filled an unset Stats with packed BHSD; the check still rejects explicitly-set non-BHSD layouts and still surfaces from validate()/build(). Co-authored-by: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…VIDIA#514) Mirrors the merged forward port's contract: both bprop kernels gain scratch_bytes() and a workspace= param carving dQ_acc / dQ / dK_ws / dV_ws / GQA-reduced dK/dV / the deterministic-dQ semaphore / dBias+dSink accumulators / do_dot from the caller's buffer (cached 1-element dummies for absent operands); SdpabwdSm80 gains scratch_workspace_bytes(feature flags) covering pad/gather staging plus the kernel tail and a carve-aware execute(workspace=); lower_sm80_bwd builds the adapter at plan time from normalized descriptors and records the total as workspace_bytes. The row also declares strided_stats (NVIDIA#666's capability): the kernels read a packed LSE, so a stats input with any other declared strides is gathered into a carved contiguous chunk — without this, every stats-stride-randomized mhas draw (NVIDIA#304, active on cuDNN >= 9.26) declined to the backend. Adds the issue's no-alloc regression test: the CUDA allocator counter stays flat across re-executes of both SM80 engines, outputs bitwise-stable. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…NVIDIA#514) Completes the forward half on the merged SdpaFwdDsl/TemplateParams architecture: SdpaFwdDslSm80.scratch_workspace_bytes() now sizes the dense_flex Q/K/V/O gathers, the GQA head expansion, the V head-dim pad (one carved buffer per operand — gather, expansion, and pad fused), strided-LSE staging, and the sinks log2 rescale; execute() carves them all from the caller's workspace through lower_dsl_prefill's existing plumbing (the standalone wrapper path keeps its allocating fallbacks). The 'LSE must be contiguous on SM80' build-time reject becomes carved staging + copy-back: with mhas randomizing dense stats strides on cuDNN >= 9.26 (NVIDIA#304), that reject was declining most stats-carrying forward graphs to the backend. Test updates: workspace passed at every SM80 graph execute; the no-alloc regression no longer requires a non-zero fwd workspace (a plain compact-BSHD MHA graph direct-binds everything and genuinely needs no scratch). Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…VIDIA#514) Mirrors the merged forward port's contract: both bprop kernels gain scratch_bytes() and a workspace= param carving dQ_acc / dQ / dK_ws / dV_ws / GQA-reduced dK/dV / the deterministic-dQ semaphore / dBias+dSink accumulators / do_dot from the caller's buffer (cached 1-element dummies for absent operands); SdpabwdSm80 gains scratch_workspace_bytes(feature flags) covering pad/gather staging plus the kernel tail and a carve-aware execute(workspace=); lower_sm80_bwd builds the adapter at plan time from normalized descriptors and records the total as workspace_bytes. The row also declares strided_stats (NVIDIA#666's capability): the kernels read a packed LSE, so a stats input with any other declared strides is gathered into a carved contiguous chunk — without this, every stats-stride-randomized mhas draw (NVIDIA#304, active on cuDNN >= 9.26) declined to the backend. Adds the issue's no-alloc regression test: the CUDA allocator counter stays flat across re-executes of both SM80 engines, outputs bitwise-stable. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…NVIDIA#514) Completes the forward half on the merged SdpaFwdDsl/TemplateParams architecture: SdpaFwdDslSm80.scratch_workspace_bytes() now sizes the dense_flex Q/K/V/O gathers, the GQA head expansion, the V head-dim pad (one carved buffer per operand — gather, expansion, and pad fused), strided-LSE staging, and the sinks log2 rescale; execute() carves them all from the caller's workspace through lower_dsl_prefill's existing plumbing (the standalone wrapper path keeps its allocating fallbacks). The 'LSE must be contiguous on SM80' build-time reject becomes carved staging + copy-back: with mhas randomizing dense stats strides on cuDNN >= 9.26 (NVIDIA#304), that reject was declining most stats-carrying forward graphs to the backend. Test updates: workspace passed at every SM80 graph execute; the no-alloc regression no longer requires a non-zero fwd workspace (a plain compact-BSHD MHA graph direct-binds everything and genuinely needs no scratch). Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…-execute allocation on the engine paths (issue #514) (#716) * frost(sdpa): SM80 backward workspace carving + strided stats (issue #514) Mirrors the merged forward port's contract: both bprop kernels gain scratch_bytes() and a workspace= param carving dQ_acc / dQ / dK_ws / dV_ws / GQA-reduced dK/dV / the deterministic-dQ semaphore / dBias+dSink accumulators / do_dot from the caller's buffer (cached 1-element dummies for absent operands); SdpabwdSm80 gains scratch_workspace_bytes(feature flags) covering pad/gather staging plus the kernel tail and a carve-aware execute(workspace=); lower_sm80_bwd builds the adapter at plan time from normalized descriptors and records the total as workspace_bytes. The row also declares strided_stats (#666's capability): the kernels read a packed LSE, so a stats input with any other declared strides is gathered into a carved contiguous chunk — without this, every stats-stride-randomized mhas draw (#304, active on cuDNN >= 9.26) declined to the backend. Adds the issue's no-alloc regression test: the CUDA allocator counter stays flat across re-executes of both SM80 engines, outputs bitwise-stable. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> * frost(sdpa): SM80 forward scratch carving + strided-LSE staging (issue #514) Completes the forward half on the merged SdpaFwdDsl/TemplateParams architecture: SdpaFwdDslSm80.scratch_workspace_bytes() now sizes the dense_flex Q/K/V/O gathers, the GQA head expansion, the V head-dim pad (one carved buffer per operand — gather, expansion, and pad fused), strided-LSE staging, and the sinks log2 rescale; execute() carves them all from the caller's workspace through lower_dsl_prefill's existing plumbing (the standalone wrapper path keeps its allocating fallbacks). The 'LSE must be contiguous on SM80' build-time reject becomes carved staging + copy-back: with mhas randomizing dense stats strides on cuDNN >= 9.26 (#304), that reject was declining most stats-carrying forward graphs to the backend. Test updates: workspace passed at every SM80 graph execute; the no-alloc regression no longer requires a non-zero fwd workspace (a plain compact-BSHD MHA graph direct-binds everything and genuinely needs no scratch). Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> * review: IR-shaped input views in lower_sm80_bwd; harden the no-alloc test CodeRabbit round 1: - lower_sm80_bwd rebuilds IR-shaped views for the variant-pack INPUT buffers (q/k/v/o/dO/stats) before staging, mirroring the forward lowering's _ir_view — a flat or logically-reshaped caller buffer previously raised or mapped elements incorrectly in the rank-dependent staging paths. The gradient OUTPUTS deliberately keep the caller tensor's own view: output-port IR strides are provisional row-major unless user-assigned (the layout invariant in docs/python_graph_and_execution_backends.md), and re-striding the copy-back targets to the provisional layout scatters the writes (caught by test_bwd_engine_end_to_end, 83% dQ mismatch). - The no-alloc regression now exercises real staging on both directions: GQA (fwd K/V head expansion) plus a strided stats buffer (fwd LSE staging + bwd gather), asserts a non-zero fwd workspace, and clones/compares dK and dV alongside dQ and O across the re-executes. Verified on A100: SM80 suites all levels 118 passed; test_mhas_v2 bwd_L0 176/0, sdpa_bwd_sm80 serving all 176. Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> * review: L0 marker on the no-alloc regression test Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> --------- Co-authored-by: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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The SM80 (and SM100 dBias) backward kernels in cuDNN < 9.26 ignore the declared strides of the softmax-stats (LSE) tensor and address it as packed BHSD, silently producing wrong gradients for any other layout (NVBug 6057616). The backend fix is internal MR !4147, shipping in cuDNN 9.26.
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sdpa_support_surface.h— forward guard (early warning):Reject a non-ragged
Statsoutput with non-BHSD strides when building a forward SDPA graph on cuDNN < 9.26, so the error surfaces at forward graph construction rather than silently at backward runtime. Introduces ahas_statsconvenience variable consistent with the otherhas_*locals at the top ofvalidate_sdpa_support_surface().scaled_dot_product_flash_attention.h— backward guard (authoritative):Reject a non-ragged
Statsinput with non-BHSD strides inCompositeSDPABackwardNode::pre_validate_node()on cuDNN < 9.26. This is the definitive check; the forward check above is early-warning only. Also fixes a pre-existing formatting issue in the adjacent block (missing space inif(, mismatched continuation indent, tab in closing brace).test/python/sdpa/random_config.py— randomize stats strides unconditionally:Removes the old
# TODO: Randomize stride_stats once all layouts are supported correctlyguard. Stats strides are now drawn randomly on every run. On cuDNN < 9.26 the new FE checks reject non-BHSD configs withGRAPH_NOT_SUPPORTED(tests skip cleanly); on 9.26+ all layouts are exercised. Verified: 378/378 bwd L0 pass on cuDNN 9.26 / H100.Notes
< 92600) should stay until FE formally bumps its minimum cuDNN requirement to 9.26, at which point they can be cleaned up along with all other 9.26-gated guards.engines.py) unrelated to this bug. WhenCUDNN_FRONTEND_ENABLE_FROST_ENGINES=1is set,test_mhas_v2.pymay also route bwds through FROST; those configs skip via FROST's own check rather than the new FE check, which is also correct.