diff --git a/app/controllers/organisations_controller.rb b/app/controllers/organisations_controller.rb
index 19aa94ae5..b415f2a68 100644
--- a/app/controllers/organisations_controller.rb
+++ b/app/controllers/organisations_controller.rb
@@ -12,7 +12,12 @@ def index
 
     organisation_ids = @organisations.map(&:id)
     @user_counts = User.where(organisation_id: organisation_ids).group(:organisation_id).count
-    @form_counts = GroupForm.joins(:group).where(groups: { organisation_id: organisation_ids }).reorder(nil).group("groups.organisation_id").count
+    @live_form_counts = GroupForm.joins(:group, :form)
+                                 .where(groups: { organisation_id: organisation_ids }, forms: { state: %w[live live_with_draft] })
+                                 .reorder(nil).group("groups.organisation_id").count
+    @draft_form_counts = GroupForm.joins(:group, :form)
+                                  .where(groups: { organisation_id: organisation_ids }, forms: { state: "draft" })
+                                  .reorder(nil).group("groups.organisation_id").count
     @agreement_types = MouSignature.where(organisation_id: organisation_ids)
                                    .distinct
                                    .pluck(:organisation_id, :agreement_type)
@@ -40,8 +45,10 @@ def apply_sort(scope)
     case filter_params[:sort]
     when "users"
       scope.order_by_user_count
-    when "forms"
-      scope.order_by_form_count
+    when "live_forms"
+      scope.order_by_live_form_count
+    when "draft_forms"
+      scope.order_by_draft_form_count
     when "agreement_date"
       scope.order_by_first_agreement_date
     else
diff --git a/app/input_objects/organisations/filter_input.rb b/app/input_objects/organisations/filter_input.rb
index c0958d951..ecd6881a4 100644
--- a/app/input_objects/organisations/filter_input.rb
+++ b/app/input_objects/organisations/filter_input.rb
@@ -10,7 +10,8 @@ def sort_options
       [
         OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.name"), value: "name"),
         OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.users"), value: "users"),
-        OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.forms"), value: "forms"),
+        OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.live_forms"), value: "live_forms"),
+        OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.draft_forms"), value: "draft_forms"),
         OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.agreement_date"), value: "agreement_date"),
       ]
     end
diff --git a/app/models/organisation.rb b/app/models/organisation.rb
index 57e857604..7c72bb92d 100644
--- a/app/models/organisation.rb
+++ b/app/models/organisation.rb
@@ -36,8 +36,13 @@ class Organisation < ApplicationRecord
       .order(:name)
   }
 
-  scope :order_by_form_count, lambda {
-    order(Arel.sql("(SELECT COUNT(*) FROM groups_form_ids INNER JOIN groups ON groups.id = groups_form_ids.group_id WHERE groups.organisation_id = organisations.id) DESC"))
+  scope :order_by_live_form_count, lambda {
+    order(Arel.sql("(SELECT COUNT(*) FROM groups_form_ids INNER JOIN groups ON groups.id = groups_form_ids.group_id INNER JOIN forms ON forms.id = groups_form_ids.form_id WHERE groups.organisation_id = organisations.id AND forms.state IN ('live', 'live_with_draft')) DESC"))
+      .order(:name)
+  }
+
+  scope :order_by_draft_form_count, lambda {
+    order(Arel.sql("(SELECT COUNT(*) FROM groups_form_ids INNER JOIN groups ON groups.id = groups_form_ids.group_id INNER JOIN forms ON forms.id = groups_form_ids.form_id WHERE groups.organisation_id = organisations.id AND forms.state = 'draft') DESC"))
       .order(:name)
   }
 
diff --git a/app/views/organisations/index.html.erb b/app/views/organisations/index.html.erb
index dcbcf7a61..df5567cff 100644
--- a/app/views/organisations/index.html.erb
+++ b/app/views/organisations/index.html.erb
@@ -58,7 +58,8 @@
         head.with_row do |row|
           row.with_cell(header: true, text: t("organisations.index.table_headings.name"))
           row.with_cell(header: true, text: t("organisations.index.table_headings.users"), numeric: true)
-          row.with_cell(header: true, text: t("organisations.index.table_headings.forms"), numeric: true)
+          row.with_cell(header: true, text: t("organisations.index.table_headings.live_forms"), numeric: true)
+          row.with_cell(header: true, text: t("organisations.index.table_headings.draft_forms"), numeric: true)
           row.with_cell(header: true, text: t("organisations.index.table_headings.agreement_type"))
         end
       end %>
@@ -70,7 +71,8 @@
               govuk_link_to(organisation.name_with_abbreviation, organisation_path(organisation))
             end
             row.with_cell(text: @user_counts.fetch(organisation.id, 0).to_s, numeric: true)
-            row.with_cell(text: @form_counts.fetch(organisation.id, 0).to_s, numeric: true)
+            row.with_cell(text: @live_form_counts.fetch(organisation.id, 0).to_s, numeric: true)
+            row.with_cell(text: @draft_form_counts.fetch(organisation.id, 0).to_s, numeric: true)
             agreement_types = @agreement_types.fetch(organisation.id, [])
             if agreement_types.any?
               row.with_cell(text: agreement_types.map { |agreement_type| t("mou_signatures.index.agreement_type.#{agreement_type}") }.join(", "))
diff --git a/app/views/organisations/show.html.erb b/app/views/organisations/show.html.erb
index ad3938560..58541da7f 100644
--- a/app/views/organisations/show.html.erb
+++ b/app/views/organisations/show.html.erb
@@ -37,8 +37,13 @@
       end
 
       summary_list.with_row do |row|
-        row.with_key { t('organisations.show.summary.forms') }
-        row.with_value { @organisation.group_forms.count.to_s }
+        row.with_key { t('organisations.show.summary.live_forms') }
+        row.with_value { @organisation.group_forms.joins(:form).where(forms: { state: %w[live live_with_draft] }).count.to_s }
+      end
+
+      summary_list.with_row do |row|
+        row.with_key { t('organisations.show.summary.draft_forms') }
+        row.with_value { @organisation.group_forms.joins(:form).where(forms: { state: "draft" }).count.to_s }
       end
 
       summary_list.with_row do |row|
diff --git a/config/locales/en.yml b/config/locales/en.yml
index 745c769b7..0c68c3580 100644
--- a/config/locales/en.yml
+++ b/config/locales/en.yml
@@ -1510,9 +1510,10 @@ en:
           label: Name
         sort:
           agreement_date: Date first agreement signed (newest first)
-          forms: Forms (most first)
+          draft_forms: Draft forms (most first)
           hint: Choose how to order the list
           label: Sort by
+          live_forms: Live forms (most first)
           name: Name (A to Z)
           users: Users (most first)
         submit: Filter
@@ -1524,7 +1525,8 @@ en:
       table_caption: All organisations
       table_headings:
         agreement_type: Agreement type
-        forms: Forms
+        draft_forms: Draft forms
+        live_forms: Live forms
         name: Name
         users: Users
     show:
@@ -1541,10 +1543,11 @@ en:
       summary:
         closed: Closed
         created_at: Created
-        forms: Number of forms
+        draft_forms: Number of draft forms
         govuk_content_id: GOV.UK content ID
         groups: Number of groups
         internal: Internal
+        live_forms: Number of live forms
         slug: Slug
         users: Number of users
   page_conditions:
diff --git a/spec/input_objects/organisations/filter_input_spec.rb b/spec/input_objects/organisations/filter_input_spec.rb
index 4c880507f..5f4c5a98f 100644
--- a/spec/input_objects/organisations/filter_input_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/input_objects/organisations/filter_input_spec.rb
@@ -32,7 +32,8 @@
       expect(described_class.new.sort_options).to eq([
         OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.name"), value: "name"),
         OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.users"), value: "users"),
-        OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.forms"), value: "forms"),
+        OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.live_forms"), value: "live_forms"),
+        OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.draft_forms"), value: "draft_forms"),
         OpenStruct.new(label: I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.agreement_date"), value: "agreement_date"),
       ])
     end
diff --git a/spec/models/organisation_spec.rb b/spec/models/organisation_spec.rb
index 71b0ee58b..dd9beae70 100644
--- a/spec/models/organisation_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/models/organisation_spec.rb
@@ -106,6 +106,60 @@
       end
     end
 
+    describe ".order_by_live_form_count" do
+      let!(:organisation_with_two_live_forms) { create :organisation, slug: "org-with-two-live-forms" }
+      let!(:organisation_with_one_live_form) { create :organisation, slug: "org-with-one-live-form" }
+      let!(:organisation_with_draft_form) { create :organisation, slug: "org-with-draft-form" }
+
+      before do
+        two_live_group = create :group, organisation: organisation_with_two_live_forms
+        create :form, :live, :with_group, group: two_live_group
+        create :form, :live_with_draft, :with_group, group: two_live_group
+
+        one_live_group = create :group, organisation: organisation_with_one_live_form
+        create :form, :live, :with_group, group: one_live_group
+        create :form, :archived, :with_group, group: one_live_group
+
+        draft_group = create :group, organisation: organisation_with_draft_form
+        create :form, :with_group, group: draft_group
+      end
+
+      it "orders by live form count, most first, counting live with draft but not draft or archived forms" do
+        expect(described_class.order_by_live_form_count).to eq [
+          organisation_with_two_live_forms,
+          organisation_with_one_live_form,
+          organisation_with_draft_form,
+        ]
+      end
+    end
+
+    describe ".order_by_draft_form_count" do
+      let!(:organisation_with_two_draft_forms) { create :organisation, slug: "org-with-two-draft-forms" }
+      let!(:organisation_with_one_draft_form) { create :organisation, slug: "org-with-one-draft-form" }
+      let!(:organisation_with_live_form) { create :organisation, slug: "org-with-live-form" }
+
+      before do
+        two_draft_group = create :group, organisation: organisation_with_two_draft_forms
+        create_list :form, 2, :with_group, group: two_draft_group
+
+        one_draft_group = create :group, organisation: organisation_with_one_draft_form
+        create :form, :with_group, group: one_draft_group
+        create :form, :live_with_draft, :with_group, group: one_draft_group
+        create :form, :archived_with_draft, :with_group, group: one_draft_group
+
+        live_group = create :group, organisation: organisation_with_live_form
+        create :form, :live, :with_group, group: live_group
+      end
+
+      it "orders by draft form count, most first, not counting live or archived forms with drafts" do
+        expect(described_class.order_by_draft_form_count).to eq [
+          organisation_with_two_draft_forms,
+          organisation_with_one_draft_form,
+          organisation_with_live_form,
+        ]
+      end
+    end
+
     describe ".order_by_first_agreement_date" do
       let!(:organisation_signed_last_week) { create :organisation, slug: "org-signed-last-week" }
       let!(:organisation_signed_last_year) { create :organisation, slug: "org-signed-last-year" }
diff --git a/spec/requests/organisations_controller_spec.rb b/spec/requests/organisations_controller_spec.rb
index 8af46f3e4..026f13979 100644
--- a/spec/requests/organisations_controller_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/requests/organisations_controller_spec.rb
@@ -28,7 +28,9 @@
 
     context "when the user is a super admin" do
       before do
-        create(:form, :with_group, group:)
+        create(:form, :live, :with_group, group:)
+        create_list(:form, 2, :with_group, group:)
+        create(:form, :archived, :with_group, group:)
 
         login_as_super_admin_user
 
@@ -45,11 +47,17 @@
         expect(response.body).to include(closed_organisation.name)
       end
 
-      it "shows the number of forms in each organisation" do
+      it "shows the number of live forms in each organisation, not counting archived forms" do
         page = Capybara.string(response.body)
         expect(page).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[3]", text: "1"
         expect(page).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[3]", text: "0"
       end
+
+      it "shows the number of draft forms in each organisation, not counting archived forms" do
+        page = Capybara.string(response.body)
+        expect(page).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[4]", text: "2"
+        expect(page).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[4]", text: "0"
+      end
     end
 
     context "when filtering" do
@@ -126,8 +134,17 @@ def organisation_row_order(response)
         expect(organisation_row_order(response).first).to eq(organisation_z.name_with_abbreviation)
       end
 
-      it "sorts by form count descending" do
-        get path, params: { filter: { sort: "forms" } }
+      it "sorts by live form count descending" do
+        group = create :group, organisation: organisation_z
+        create(:form, :live, :with_group, group:)
+
+        get path, params: { filter: { sort: "live_forms" } }
+
+        expect(organisation_row_order(response).first).to eq(organisation_z.name_with_abbreviation)
+      end
+
+      it "sorts by draft form count descending" do
+        get path, params: { filter: { sort: "draft_forms" } }
 
         expect(organisation_row_order(response).first).to eq(organisation_n.name_with_abbreviation)
       end
diff --git a/spec/views/organisations/index.html.erb_spec.rb b/spec/views/organisations/index.html.erb_spec.rb
index c57f95bf8..67b2268c5 100644
--- a/spec/views/organisations/index.html.erb_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/views/organisations/index.html.erb_spec.rb
@@ -5,7 +5,8 @@
   let(:closed_organisation) { create :organisation, slug: "closed-department", closed: true }
   let(:organisations) { [organisation, closed_organisation] }
   let(:user_counts) { { organisation.id => 3 } }
-  let(:form_counts) { { organisation.id => 2 } }
+  let(:live_form_counts) { { organisation.id => 2 } }
+  let(:draft_form_counts) { { organisation.id => 4 } }
   let(:agreement_types) { { organisation.id => %w[crown] } }
   let(:pagy) { Pagy.new(count: organisations.size, page: 1, limit: 50) }
   let(:filter_input) { Organisations::FilterInput.new }
@@ -15,7 +16,8 @@
     assign(:filter_input, filter_input)
     assign(:organisations, organisations)
     assign(:user_counts, user_counts)
-    assign(:form_counts, form_counts)
+    assign(:live_form_counts, live_form_counts)
+    assign(:draft_form_counts, draft_form_counts)
     assign(:agreement_types, agreement_types)
 
     render template: "organisations/index"
@@ -61,7 +63,8 @@
     expect(rendered).to have_select("filter[sort]", options: [
       I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.name"),
       I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.users"),
-      I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.forms"),
+      I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.live_forms"),
+      I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.draft_forms"),
       I18n.t("organisations.index.filter.sort.agreement_date"),
     ])
   end
@@ -74,23 +77,25 @@
   it "contains the user and form counts" do
     expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[2]", text: "3"
     expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[3]", text: "2"
+    expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[4]", text: "4"
   end
 
   it "shows zero counts for organisations without users or forms" do
     expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[2]", text: "0"
     expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[3]", text: "0"
+    expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[4]", text: "0"
   end
 
   it "shows the agreement type for each organisation" do
-    expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[4]", text: I18n.t("mou_signatures.index.agreement_type.crown")
-    expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[4]", text: I18n.t("organisations.index.agreement_type_none")
+    expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[5]", text: I18n.t("mou_signatures.index.agreement_type.crown")
+    expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[2]/td[5]", text: I18n.t("organisations.index.agreement_type_none")
   end
 
   context "when an organisation has both agreement types" do
     let(:agreement_types) { { organisation.id => %w[crown non_crown] } }
 
     it "shows both agreement types" do
-      expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[4]", text: "Crown MOU, Non-crown agreement"
+      expect(rendered).to have_xpath "//tbody/tr[1]/td[5]", text: "Crown MOU, Non-crown agreement"
     end
   end
 
diff --git a/spec/views/organisations/show.html.erb_spec.rb b/spec/views/organisations/show.html.erb_spec.rb
index b89d16136..3f8868b92 100644
--- a/spec/views/organisations/show.html.erb_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/views/organisations/show.html.erb_spec.rb
@@ -6,7 +6,10 @@
 
   before do
     organisation_domains
-    create(:form, :with_group, group: create(:group, organisation:))
+    group = create(:group, organisation:)
+    create(:form, :live, :with_group, group:)
+    create_list(:form, 2, :with_group, group:)
+    create(:form, :archived, :with_group, group:)
 
     assign(:organisation, organisation)
 
@@ -22,13 +25,19 @@
     expect(rendered).to have_css(".govuk-summary-list__value", text: organisation.slug)
   end
 
-  it "shows the number of forms between the user and group counts" do
+  it "shows the live and draft form counts between the user and group counts" do
     users_index = rendered.index(I18n.t("organisations.show.summary.users"))
-    forms_index = rendered.index(I18n.t("organisations.show.summary.forms"))
+    live_forms_index = rendered.index(I18n.t("organisations.show.summary.live_forms"))
+    draft_forms_index = rendered.index(I18n.t("organisations.show.summary.draft_forms"))
     groups_index = rendered.index(I18n.t("organisations.show.summary.groups"))
 
-    expect(forms_index).to be_between(users_index, groups_index)
-    expect(rendered).to have_css(".govuk-summary-list__row", text: /#{I18n.t('organisations.show.summary.forms')}\s*1/)
+    expect(live_forms_index).to be_between(users_index, draft_forms_index)
+    expect(draft_forms_index).to be_between(live_forms_index, groups_index)
+  end
+
+  it "shows the number of live and draft forms, not counting archived forms" do
+    expect(rendered).to have_css(".govuk-summary-list__row", text: /#{I18n.t('organisations.show.summary.live_forms')}\s*1/)
+    expect(rendered).to have_css(".govuk-summary-list__row", text: /#{I18n.t('organisations.show.summary.draft_forms')}\s*2/)
   end
 
   it "shows whether the organisation is internal or closed" do